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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tomaz

Thank you for the link building tips. I guess it&#039;s not enough to get out there and write articles and submit to web directories. I should also look for some high PR blogs to share links with.

Thanks for showing us that by posting comments, we can help build a relationship with the blog owner and eventually ask for a link.

I also agree with you that what you put in your website you&#039;ll get out of it. When I write a quick article, I don&#039;t get the links that I do when I write a more detailed, planned and thought out article.

Thanks as always for sharing your success with us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tomaz</p>
<p>Thank you for the link building tips. I guess it&#8217;s not enough to get out there and write articles and submit to web directories. I should also look for some high PR blogs to share links with.</p>
<p>Thanks for showing us that by posting comments, we can help build a relationship with the blog owner and eventually ask for a link.</p>
<p>I also agree with you that what you put in your website you&#8217;ll get out of it. When I write a quick article, I don&#8217;t get the links that I do when I write a more detailed, planned and thought out article.</p>
<p>Thanks as always for sharing your success with us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John and Trina: It&#039;s very cool when some green bar starts to show up for your sites. Note that this has nothing to do with your traffic - it was about the same last week when the green bar didn&#039;t show yet and it&#039;s about the same this week when the green bar shows some pagerank.

The difference is when you&#039;re negotiating link exchanges; most webmasters still exchange links based on pagerank and you can offer PR1 in-content link which will also send some traffic to another site. That&#039;s a much better offer than giving PR0 link from links pages and of course you can also request a better link now from someone else...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John and Trina: It&#8217;s very cool when some green bar starts to show up for your sites. Note that this has nothing to do with your traffic &#8211; it was about the same last week when the green bar didn&#8217;t show yet and it&#8217;s about the same this week when the green bar shows some pagerank.</p>
<p>The difference is when you&#8217;re negotiating link exchanges; most webmasters still exchange links based on pagerank and you can offer PR1 in-content link which will also send some traffic to another site. That&#8217;s a much better offer than giving PR0 link from links pages and of course you can also request a better link now from someone else&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Trina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tomaz, I am ecstatic! I have been following your link-building advice for the last month and have seen positive results already. I have limited time to work on my site, so my content building efforts have slowed while I focus on links. However, the concentrated effort has been well worthwhile.

I&#039;ve been striving to get my home page to rank with google, and hoping for a PR1. I was stunned when the little grey PR box on my google toolbar showed some green overnight - PR2 green! Additionally, several of my tier 2 pages that I&#039;ve focused on building links to have a PR1 ranking now. My site is only about 6 months old so I&#039;m feeling happy with progress. Thanks for the useful tips that have helped so much along the way. 

Trina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tomaz, I am ecstatic! I have been following your link-building advice for the last month and have seen positive results already. I have limited time to work on my site, so my content building efforts have slowed while I focus on links. However, the concentrated effort has been well worthwhile.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been striving to get my home page to rank with google, and hoping for a PR1. I was stunned when the little grey PR box on my google toolbar showed some green overnight &#8211; PR2 green! Additionally, several of my tier 2 pages that I&#8217;ve focused on building links to have a PR1 ranking now. My site is only about 6 months old so I&#8217;m feeling happy with progress. Thanks for the useful tips that have helped so much along the way. </p>
<p>Trina</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YAY! I&#039;ve been following the advice on here and my 6 month old site which showed n/a PR now has a PR1 for the homepage and PR2 for some tier2 pages.

I&#039;m a happy bunny - cheers Tomaz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YAY! I&#8217;ve been following the advice on here and my 6 month old site which showed n/a PR now has a PR1 for the homepage and PR2 for some tier2 pages.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a happy bunny &#8211; cheers Tomaz.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark van Tuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark van Tuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe perfect timing, google has just updated their famous pagerank

Nice article ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe perfect timing, google has just updated their famous pagerank</p>
<p>Nice article <img src='http://www.freedomideas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tomaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John,

Once I find 30 blogs or so, I post 5 to 6 comments on each in about 1 month or so that the owner gets to know me and my site.

Then I suggest a link exchange. I don&#039;t post comments for links but to establish friendship with the webmaster.

The link is then typically posted in their blogroll (if they agree to an exchange) which is on the homepage which has PR3+.  

And yes, you need to look at the PR of the page where your link is and not the PR of the website. Therefore, most directories are worthless. 

The link on a high authority directory like botw.org or yahoo.com will probably be still beneficial although I have no scientific proof. Test and see. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John,</p>
<p>Once I find 30 blogs or so, I post 5 to 6 comments on each in about 1 month or so that the owner gets to know me and my site.</p>
<p>Then I suggest a link exchange. I don&#8217;t post comments for links but to establish friendship with the webmaster.</p>
<p>The link is then typically posted in their blogroll (if they agree to an exchange) which is on the homepage which has PR3+.  </p>
<p>And yes, you need to look at the PR of the page where your link is and not the PR of the website. Therefore, most directories are worthless. </p>
<p>The link on a high authority directory like botw.org or yahoo.com will probably be still beneficial although I have no scientific proof. Test and see. <img src='http://www.freedomideas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t outsource link building, only research (like: find me 30 PR3+ blogs related to my topic). I then negotiate myself.&quot;

Tomaz, a couple of questions here.

When you&#039;ve found the blogs do you contact the blog owner directly for a link or do you post a comment?

On the subject of comments most blogs I&#039;ve found are now no follow for comments - are they worth posting on from a links perspective? 

I&#039;ve posted on dozens of blogs and this site is the only one that ever shows a backlink on yahoo! 

Also I see many good looking directories etc offering PR3, PR4 links etc but the page where the link will actually be has no PR - I thought it was the PR of the page the link was going to be placed on that counted and not that of the home page or is it different for directories?

Building sites is fun - link building is a pain!
(But necessary . . . )
 
Thanks, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t outsource link building, only research (like: find me 30 PR3+ blogs related to my topic). I then negotiate myself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tomaz, a couple of questions here.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;ve found the blogs do you contact the blog owner directly for a link or do you post a comment?</p>
<p>On the subject of comments most blogs I&#8217;ve found are now no follow for comments &#8211; are they worth posting on from a links perspective? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted on dozens of blogs and this site is the only one that ever shows a backlink on yahoo! </p>
<p>Also I see many good looking directories etc offering PR3, PR4 links etc but the page where the link will actually be has no PR &#8211; I thought it was the PR of the page the link was going to be placed on that counted and not that of the home page or is it different for directories?</p>
<p>Building sites is fun &#8211; link building is a pain!<br />
(But necessary . . . )</p>
<p>Thanks, John.</p>
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		<title>By: Aurther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aurther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tomaz,

I see what you mean. This is why i also think sites must be built around a passion/interest (or a topic one can exhaustively sustain) i think it adds that advantage so to be able to go an extra mile as you have shown with the particular article on your tennis site. 

Probably the mindset should also be long haul. 2-3 years of sustained work on the site without really expecting overnight windfall in traffic.

Many thanks for sharing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tomaz,</p>
<p>I see what you mean. This is why i also think sites must be built around a passion/interest (or a topic one can exhaustively sustain) i think it adds that advantage so to be able to go an extra mile as you have shown with the particular article on your tennis site. </p>
<p>Probably the mindset should also be long haul. 2-3 years of sustained work on the site without really expecting overnight windfall in traffic.</p>
<p>Many thanks for sharing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aurther,

SBI has nothing to do with free search engine traffic. It&#039;s just a tool to build websites - so there&#039;s nothing special about SBI sites - when it comes to Google traffic.

People fail to get a high PR link(s) if they don&#039;t know that links are important and don&#039;t put in the effort of link building. 

Sooner or later you&#039;re going to get lucky and score some quality links - if you persist with emailing other webmasters. They don&#039;t have to be PR5 at all.

The key is to get quality links from trusted authority sites.

People also fail to get good links if their content sucks and their site looks crappy. 

No one wants to naturally link to such a site. Therefore, again, you need to &lt;b&gt;put in the effort&lt;/b&gt; of creating a good looking design and creating high quality content.

300 word outsourced articles for $5 will NEVER get you high quality organic links.

People constantly look for shortcuts and that&#039;s their biggest mistake. Instead, they should focus on putting EVERYTHING they&#039;ve got into the quality content of their sites.

Here&#039;s my latest tennis article for example: 

http://www.tennismindgame.com/advanced-tennis-backhand.html

Here&#039;s what needed to be done:

- plan the drills on paper a day before
- charge the battery and prepare the camera and the tapes ;)
- tape the drills on court and consider what the best viewing angle is best
- work on court of course for 90 minutes
- transfer the videos from tape to the PC
- edit the videos, add titles, convert into mp4 format and upload to Youtube
- write an article, find pictures and other videos needed to be included in the article
- have article proofread
- put everything together

The total time invested for this single article is over 10 hours. 

Of course, not all my articles take that much time but the question is, &lt;b&gt;how many of your articles&lt;/b&gt; have this much effort invested?

This article will undoubtedly gain organic links over time and people will undoubtedly bookmark it - and that will be recognized by Google and that&#039;s how you gain lots of traffic and trust of the visitors over time.

I am &lt;b&gt;NOT looking for shortcuts&lt;/b&gt; when I am writing my own stuff. I am looking to share the BEST of my knowledge in the BEST possible way for people to benefit &lt;b&gt;regardless of how much time it takes me.&lt;/b&gt;

This is in my opinion what separates the winners from losers and that&#039;s why I do it. I am sharing this attitude with you here so that you understand why I earn a lot of with my websites.

This is not magic trick or knowing some sneaky ways of getting high PR links. 

No, it&#039;s really giving my best for the content I put out and then it&#039;s easier to get high quality links to it. (still not easy though!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aurther,</p>
<p>SBI has nothing to do with free search engine traffic. It&#8217;s just a tool to build websites &#8211; so there&#8217;s nothing special about SBI sites &#8211; when it comes to Google traffic.</p>
<p>People fail to get a high PR link(s) if they don&#8217;t know that links are important and don&#8217;t put in the effort of link building. </p>
<p>Sooner or later you&#8217;re going to get lucky and score some quality links &#8211; if you persist with emailing other webmasters. They don&#8217;t have to be PR5 at all.</p>
<p>The key is to get quality links from trusted authority sites.</p>
<p>People also fail to get good links if their content sucks and their site looks crappy. </p>
<p>No one wants to naturally link to such a site. Therefore, again, you need to <b>put in the effort</b> of creating a good looking design and creating high quality content.</p>
<p>300 word outsourced articles for $5 will NEVER get you high quality organic links.</p>
<p>People constantly look for shortcuts and that&#8217;s their biggest mistake. Instead, they should focus on putting EVERYTHING they&#8217;ve got into the quality content of their sites.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my latest tennis article for example: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.tennismindgame.com/advanced-tennis-backhand.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tennismindgame.com/advanced-tennis-backhand.html</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what needed to be done:</p>
<p>- plan the drills on paper a day before<br />
- charge the battery and prepare the camera and the tapes <img src='http://www.freedomideas.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
- tape the drills on court and consider what the best viewing angle is best<br />
- work on court of course for 90 minutes<br />
- transfer the videos from tape to the PC<br />
- edit the videos, add titles, convert into mp4 format and upload to Youtube<br />
- write an article, find pictures and other videos needed to be included in the article<br />
- have article proofread<br />
- put everything together</p>
<p>The total time invested for this single article is over 10 hours. </p>
<p>Of course, not all my articles take that much time but the question is, <b>how many of your articles</b> have this much effort invested?</p>
<p>This article will undoubtedly gain organic links over time and people will undoubtedly bookmark it &#8211; and that will be recognized by Google and that&#8217;s how you gain lots of traffic and trust of the visitors over time.</p>
<p>I am <b>NOT looking for shortcuts</b> when I am writing my own stuff. I am looking to share the BEST of my knowledge in the BEST possible way for people to benefit <b>regardless of how much time it takes me.</b></p>
<p>This is in my opinion what separates the winners from losers and that&#8217;s why I do it. I am sharing this attitude with you here so that you understand why I earn a lot of with my websites.</p>
<p>This is not magic trick or knowing some sneaky ways of getting high PR links. </p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s really giving my best for the content I put out and then it&#8217;s easier to get high quality links to it. (still not easy though!)</p>
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		<title>By: Aurther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aurther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tomaz thanks for this.

What does this mean for SBI sites developed by people who are not SEO savvys. Does this mean SBI sites will at some point fail to generate traffic if webmasters cannot get a link from high PR sites/pages.

I imagine most SBIers rely on article submissions, answering questions, directories and value exchange etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tomaz thanks for this.</p>
<p>What does this mean for SBI sites developed by people who are not SEO savvys. Does this mean SBI sites will at some point fail to generate traffic if webmasters cannot get a link from high PR sites/pages.</p>
<p>I imagine most SBIers rely on article submissions, answering questions, directories and value exchange etc.</p>
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