That doesn’t work unless you are a boss of someone. It doesn’t work in a relationship with your spouse and partner and it doesn’t work anywhere.

I know what’s going on (from psychology) but most people just “feel”. They feel someone tries to control them. Someone is telling them what to do and that’s NOT freedom.

I don’t mind at all (and frankly I don’t really care) if someone disagrees with me. There are million ways of becoming successful online or offline.

What needs to be done when commenting and not agreeing with the original poster is to write from your own perspective and share ONLY your own thoughts without suggesting the other person that he / she is wrong or that he / she should do this and this.

That will lead to conflict and total waste of time for anyone.

I appreciate all the comments in this post but no one can learn anything from them in the future – well, not much.

I’ve seen these types of blog comment exchanges when one person tells the other person that something is not right in their view, that they should do something different, that they are not doing the right thing and it escalates into a long exchange of comments which are nothing more than trying to prove your point. (so that’s just ego)

How does anyone benefit from that? It’s a total waste of time.

I try once or twice to explain myself but that’s about it. I’ll let it go and probably delete all the comments in the future from that poster.

So maybe the only benefit from anyone reading so far down is to learn how to approach commenting on blogs and learn to be neutral and just share thoughts from their own standpoint without “suggesting” or “shoulding” (just made a new word ) to another person.

Why would someone do that if they were not worried about quality?

Dave

‘…it is not a business founded on SBI-like principles. And that’s totally ok, BUT… you shouldn’t then profess to believe in these principles’

What are the principles of SBI! if not a money making machine????

If you’re refering to altruism e.g. concern for human welfare and advancement then surely this is what Tomaz is doing, not SBI!

At least Tomaz gives his time freely and doesn’t charge for it.

He is genuinely trying to help others and if he makes money along the way so much the better.

‘You become a money-making machine, which is the basic point of my first (overly-brief) post’

Isn’t this exactly what SBI!is?

You’ve set up a bit of a straw man argument here. I don’t recognize myself in your words much at all. In particular…

-I didn’t criticize capitalism, or the desire to make lots of money. I’m well and truly happy to be in the middle of all that.
-I didn’t accuse Tomaz of exploiting people; much less, slave labor. That didn’t even occur to me.
-I didn’t suggest that I’m out to change the world. Yes, I’d like to add value to it, but I’d also like to be well paid for that value.

I’m not really keen on repeating my actual point over and over, but I’ll do it just this once to avoid further misdirected posts…

I don’t have a problem with outsourcing, BUT… If you outsource to the extent that other people write all your content, and write blog and forum posts on your behalf, then whatever it is you have, and however much money you make, it is not a business founded on SBI-like principles. And that’s totally ok, BUT… you shouldn’t then profess to believe in these principles.

You become a money-making machine, which is the basic point of my first (overly-brief) post. You have every right to follow this path, but it is inconsistent to then espouse ‘saintly’ principles, which Tomaz has done from time-to-time, here and elsewhere.

I think he genuinely stuck to these principles initially, but now those principles have changed quite drastically in the name of money, so perhaps it’s time to voice a new philosophy. ‘Make money however you can, as long as you’re not breaking the law’, perhaps?

I don’t mind people criticizing things I say, but it is a tad irritating to be criticized for things I didn’t say.

Cheers

Derek

P.S. Much as this content-surge is probably delighting Tomaz, I think I’ve made my point clear enough now, so I’ll leave it with you. It’s not really about who’s right or wrong – it’s just about being honest about what you do or don’t represent. I hope you at least take the time to understand my point, even if you disagree with it.

Here are my responses to your points in a fairly random order…

Tomaz writes lots of good stuff – great stuff even. That’s why I’ve read it all. I’ve even written some raving comments about his SBI posts. So I don’t think there’s a need to get upset if I say something negative about something I don’t like.

That’s what blog comments are for isn’t it? They ask readers ‘What do you think?’. I’m sure Tomaz would not want to attract a bunch of fawning yes-men, any more than he is one himself (i.e. he isn’t).

I wasn’t talking about the anonymous SBIX blog post – I was talking about the interview Ken did recently for an SBI affiliate that was advertized in the forums. He explicitly referred to Tomaz as the $1000 a day man and referred to his tennis site only. Make of it what you will, but that is the fact of the matter.

It doesn’t make sense to say ‘If you don’t like the information don’t read’, because you have to read it first before you know what you think of it, right? And, as I said above, Tomaz often writes great stuff.

If Tomaz wants to be a public figure, he SHOULD accept/address criticism professionally rather than reject people who criticize him, and you need to accept that your heros in life might be a little flawed.

Ken advocated Tomaz’s tip in a general sense, but I doubt he would support getting other people to write blog entries for you and pretend to be you (if that’s what’s happening – I’m not quite sure). I didn’t use a word as strong as ‘fraud’, because there are worse things being done out there on the web right now, and I’ll reserve that word for others.

Tomaz is a good guy, and a phenomenon at this making-money-online game. It’s just that this particular reader feels he has left the solid roots he displayed early on. That, to me, is a shame.

If this blog receives nothing but admiring, hero-worshiping comments, I don’t think Tomaz will benefit much in the long run.

Cheers

Derek

‘I don’t want followers of this blog to feel less than me and for me to feel more than you. I don’t care about this relationship and I don’t want it. We are all equal.’

Bravo Tomaz…This I can relate

He goes on to say:
What I care by writing this blog is to help people get out of stressful financial situation by showing them how to succeed online.

This is great and something I also relate to.

In September Tomaz gave his valuable time (at his own expense) to attend a conference in Barcelona. All those attending learnt a great deal from his meeting. He did this not for financial gain but to help people and he definitely succeeded. This is what I love about Tomaz and I only wish there were more people out there like him.

Derek, I can relate to how you feel and for a long time gave away a lot of my valuable time trying to change the world.

There are many very rich people who think like we do and help many people just like Tomaz is

We live in a capitalist society and have to earn a living to survive. Many countries exploit their workers far more than others so if we can help people to escape these chains and be free so much the better.

Tomaz is not exploiting these people he outsources work to. They are not working under slave conditions like many who work for huge corporations who set up shop in third world countries. These people work at their own time (many are students) and they can earn more in a month working for Tomaz than they would in a year.

The only thing I would like to improve is my link building strategies but I have discovered something by Dan Thies which might very well be the answer to this alienating job

All the best
Carole

yeah your can be “poor and righteous” and “rich and righteous” …and vice versa.

But making quality comments on someone’s blog is not black hat at all.

Derek ..if you read the SBI forums do you know how many people answer “yahoo answers” just to get a link.

That is part of the game and ken always says something like “comment on blogs, forums etc , but just make it quality”.

Tomaz leaving quality comments on a blog he has no interest in is just fine – he’s not tricking webmasters at all. We all do that – people at SBI do it too. The blog owners win and so do we.

If i take what you say Derek then why should i submit a link to a directory i have no interest in? (it’s because we do it for the links blog commenting is one such avenue.

(by the way did you know Site Sell services give you do follow blog comments when you buy there link building package?) If Tomaz is in the wrong then so is sitesell and ken.

If you read many other make money blogs you’ll find spam techniques.

Tomoz is consistant but just evolved his IM technique.

Also, IM is a step to be free not freedom itself…. ken even says in the action guide if you’re going to write about something you don’t know about then just do your research. So he advocates doing something that isn’t your passion

Finally… one question to Derek… give a more useful vacuum cleaner site on the internet ? I think his vacuum site offers value to the person interested in vacuum cleaners.

Happy Christmas everyone

You should really take a high level look at what your writing. If you really think that Tomaz’s ideas are fraud, then you SHOULDN’T be here.

I don’t understand how in the world you call his blog commenting method fake, when Ken Evoy (as you love to quote) just made that strategy a TNT article and put it in the week e-mail. Is Ken Evoy recommending that strategy a fraud too.

Hmmm……just a thought.

I also have read everything Tomaz has written and his views are pretty consistent.

I knew that SBIX blog post was about Tomaz and Ken mentioned his other sites, just not by name because he didn’t want to give away his identity. The whole point of that blog post was to be discreet and show success.

Since you love giving indirect advice that people should do, I’ll give you some:

“If you don’t like the information don’t read”

That my be too simple for your superior mind – yes, I’m being patronizing.

Sherman (One pissed off reader)

“Instead of thinking “what you have to do”, you SHOULD start thinking “what needs to be done” – and what can you outsource.” [Emphasis added]

Saying:”I’m just suggesting you be consistent in your advocated philosophy and practice.” – is telling me what to do. There is a hidden “should” in this sentence – but I see it.

I am a free person and do whatever I want. If you are telling me to do anything, then we are at war.

Learn to comment by being neutral and talking about your perspective.

You could have said:”I don’t agree with outsourcing comments on blogs because …” or “I prefer to stay consistent with my ideology throughout my life because…”

By commenting like that, you just express your opinions but you don’t suggest to other people that they “should” do something else – like stay idealistic or whatever it is you want or believe in.

If you “suggest” anything, you are taking a higher (ego) position assuming that you are right and someone else is not.

I know too much about psychology and human behavior and ego to be fooled by that. Therefore I reply the way I reply.

If you don’t like a certain approach I write about, don’t use it. But don’t come telling how I should behave.

You are seeing things from very idealistic perspective and would like more people to be like you. If they are not, you “suggest” them something…

I don’t mind your perspective and you’re free to think and behave however you want. You MUST NOT suggest anything to other people because their belief system is probably so different than yours that you’ll get nowhere – except into conflict.

My final advice; either comment neutrally by just sharing your opinions and letting other people be however they want to be or don’t comment at all.